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		By: Rafiq Elmansy (admin)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.graphicmania.net/apple-adobe-war-who-is-the-winner/#comment-105595&quot;&gt;John&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you John for your comment and opinion about this issue. i think the problem behind this that Apple assumes that Flash consume alot of the machine resources and power. While this is true, but I think the best solution for the community is to solve this issue and make Flash less resources consumer. 
I agree with you that mobiel devices are not suitable to provide full graphic experience for both designer and graphic viewer due to the limited resources in mobile devices and the intensive need for resource in high graphic experience. I think this is why Apple did not block Flash on large machines because it has good infrastructure of resources. This is a good point because we will not have to move from Apple productions that we love so much ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to John.</p>
<p>Thank you John for your comment and opinion about this issue. i think the problem behind this that Apple assumes that Flash consume alot of the machine resources and power. While this is true, but I think the best solution for the community is to solve this issue and make Flash less resources consumer.<br />
I agree with you that mobiel devices are not suitable to provide full graphic experience for both designer and graphic viewer due to the limited resources in mobile devices and the intensive need for resource in high graphic experience. I think this is why Apple did not block Flash on large machines because it has good infrastructure of resources. This is a good point because we will not have to move from Apple productions that we love so much 😉</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Few of us know enough about all the underlying tech issues regarding Flash and iOS, and as far as pure video I tend to doubt the issue matters in the end as video doesn&#039;t need Flash. But Flash as vector-related multimedia is a whole different animal. I&#039;d like to know the full inside details, the whole story behind this fight. Is it only technological, or also political or part of a larger business fight? Did it originate with Adobe developing new technologies that initially didn&#039;t function on Macs, after having helped provide the overwhelming graphic design base for Apple? Is this Apple paying Adobe back, and in the process perhaps purposefully further eroding Apple&#039;s own historic graphic design demographic? I&#039;ve always used Macs, as years ago it didn&#039;t make sense not to for graphics, and ever since it didn&#039;t make sense to switch with all the related investment in software, fonts, etc that would have to be repurchased to leave Apple. But if this Flash move isn&#039;t completely based on near insolvable technological issues, I now wonder if abandoning Apple might actually begin to make sense. Sure, Apple is now riding high, and for now (and probably a good deal of the foreseeable future) has much of the mobile market locked up. But for traditional graphic design, at least design and publishing that may not need phone and tablet output, will Apple continue to be a platform that will fully support all graphic design requirements? Has Flash outlived its usefulness, which I find doubtful, or is it merely the first technology Apple decides to block to attack a former partner?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few of us know enough about all the underlying tech issues regarding Flash and iOS, and as far as pure video I tend to doubt the issue matters in the end as video doesn&#8217;t need Flash. But Flash as vector-related multimedia is a whole different animal. I&#8217;d like to know the full inside details, the whole story behind this fight. Is it only technological, or also political or part of a larger business fight? Did it originate with Adobe developing new technologies that initially didn&#8217;t function on Macs, after having helped provide the overwhelming graphic design base for Apple? Is this Apple paying Adobe back, and in the process perhaps purposefully further eroding Apple&#8217;s own historic graphic design demographic? I&#8217;ve always used Macs, as years ago it didn&#8217;t make sense not to for graphics, and ever since it didn&#8217;t make sense to switch with all the related investment in software, fonts, etc that would have to be repurchased to leave Apple. But if this Flash move isn&#8217;t completely based on near insolvable technological issues, I now wonder if abandoning Apple might actually begin to make sense. Sure, Apple is now riding high, and for now (and probably a good deal of the foreseeable future) has much of the mobile market locked up. But for traditional graphic design, at least design and publishing that may not need phone and tablet output, will Apple continue to be a platform that will fully support all graphic design requirements? Has Flash outlived its usefulness, which I find doubtful, or is it merely the first technology Apple decides to block to attack a former partner?</p>
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		By: the winner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 11:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[to....Teddy Matayoshi says:

teddy, sometimes i thing people just use the internet to go straight to you tube. you are wrong . even adobe will lose being the first player in the video showing over internet market. 

you have thousand of flash based websites, animations, comics, games, 90 % percent of the fashion industry uses flash, with flash a designer can develop content, htm5 is for programmers not for designers.

the internet is much more than video watching. i have the feeling some people not even reconized how much flash is in the internet involved. not just the video format.

believe it or not. flash will not dispear, html 5 is not even out and you all are talking as its already an existing format adapted by all developers...

if apple would wait till html 5 is already a year on the marked and say something like this then i might would believe it but now coming out with a ipad and saying it is a internet device and you dont need flash... 

the truth is the ipad is a internet kripple and flash will not be dead, because you cannot force all the companies who invested a lot of money into their flash websites to change from today to tomorrow, only because you are the sick steve jobs.

there a millions of websites which are based on flash tedd and they not even show a single video. accept this and dont talk about video all the time. i cant here this argumente which is not a real argument...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to&#8230;.Teddy Matayoshi says:</p>
<p>teddy, sometimes i thing people just use the internet to go straight to you tube. you are wrong . even adobe will lose being the first player in the video showing over internet market. </p>
<p>you have thousand of flash based websites, animations, comics, games, 90 % percent of the fashion industry uses flash, with flash a designer can develop content, htm5 is for programmers not for designers.</p>
<p>the internet is much more than video watching. i have the feeling some people not even reconized how much flash is in the internet involved. not just the video format.</p>
<p>believe it or not. flash will not dispear, html 5 is not even out and you all are talking as its already an existing format adapted by all developers&#8230;</p>
<p>if apple would wait till html 5 is already a year on the marked and say something like this then i might would believe it but now coming out with a ipad and saying it is a internet device and you dont need flash&#8230; </p>
<p>the truth is the ipad is a internet kripple and flash will not be dead, because you cannot force all the companies who invested a lot of money into their flash websites to change from today to tomorrow, only because you are the sick steve jobs.</p>
<p>there a millions of websites which are based on flash tedd and they not even show a single video. accept this and dont talk about video all the time. i cant here this argumente which is not a real argument&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bryan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope Adobe will stop developing all they&#039;re products special photoshop on mac. I hate mac!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Adobe will stop developing all they&#8217;re products special photoshop on mac. I hate mac!!!!</p>
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		By: Amy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks tedd for the great comment. I am not a Mac user and use Flash mobile with no problem at all. However, it is better for both Adobe and Apple to work together to fix the Flash on iPhone and ipad instead of banning Apple users from watching Flash content on the mobile such as Youtube, Disney, Flash games and more. That is why I though in my article that there is not winner in this war, there is only one loser, which is the user.

Apple can simple add an option to disable Flash player or remove it so the Apple users that would like to see Flash content can see it on their risk if Apple say that Flash buggy on mobile.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks tedd for the great comment. I am not a Mac user and use Flash mobile with no problem at all. However, it is better for both Adobe and Apple to work together to fix the Flash on iPhone and ipad instead of banning Apple users from watching Flash content on the mobile such as Youtube, Disney, Flash games and more. That is why I though in my article that there is not winner in this war, there is only one loser, which is the user.</p>
<p>Apple can simple add an option to disable Flash player or remove it so the Apple users that would like to see Flash content can see it on their risk if Apple say that Flash buggy on mobile.</p>
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